Why are Dick and Jane gay?

I don’t know.
I’m not implying that the characters of the classic children’s book series are gay - I’m just using their image for fun. Now Rowlings said Dumbledore is gay, but there is nothing in Harry Potter to indicate anything as to his sexual orientation. Nevertheless, people are upset with her for saying the headmaster of Hogwarts is gay - due mostly to that gay agenda thing we all talk about.
Most, if not all of us know homosexuals. They are in our families, amongst our friends and coworkers, they wait upon us in restaurants, we buy their art, we watch their movies, read their books, listen to them preach in Church - they are everywhere.
Hatred.
Many people insist they “hate the sin” but profess to “love the sinner”. We constantly preach the teaching of scripture and the Church as a defense for our hatred of the sin. I’m famous for insisting the “G” in “GLBT” means that every gay person embraces all the depraved stuff homosexual sex includes. (Obviously they don’t.) I’ve said that without understanding that many gay people resort to anonymous sex in less than desirable circumstances because of the intense societal rejection and subsequent shame they feel because of their homosexual orientation. I’m not condoning what they do - simply stating a reality.
Is there a gay agenda?
I think there is in various sectors of the culture. But I do not believe every homosexual person is a part of it, and may not even condone it. Certainly everyone deserves protection from discrimination, everyone deserves housing and fundamental human rights, gay people included. Many gay people just want the issue to go away, to be able to live their lives, just as all of us do. Yes, there are those who push the envelope, demanding same-sex unions, adoption of children, so on and so forth. But not every gay person is so politicized as that. (I am against SS marriage and gay people adopting children. Of course others disagree with me on that.)
Gay-Catholics.
I’ve made a big deal about how gay-Catholics must drop the term gay because of its political implications and insisting it keeps people in the lifestyle. Nevertheless, there are sincere individuals who honestly believe they were born homosexual and it is not a choice. They identify their sexuality as gay. Who am I to tell them their experience of themselves is incorrect? I cannot live or understand their experience. Their experience is the only truth they know of themselves. I can’t say, “You just think you are gay.”
Perhaps for a very few, it was a choice, although most gay people insist they were born that way. Perhaps for others, it was a choice not made in total freedom, but a series of conditions in their formative years which led them to certain concessions or accommodations, which necessitated an unconscious choice or decision that they must be gay. (”Gee, I must be gay because I feel attracted to the same sex.”) Perhaps this is what many describe as suddenly realizing they are gay. Thus, acting upon this inclination, especially for a number of years, they may see themselves as constitutionally, or irreversibly homosexual. The truth is, most gay people do not believe they can change their orientation.
The Catholic attitude.
Whatever the cause of homosexuality, the Roman Catholic Church does not demand that a person with homosexual inclination change his or her orientation. (Neither does the Church pretend to know the reason people are gay.) To experience homosexual orientation, or same sex attraction is not in itself sinful. The Church simply teaches that to act upon homosexual desire, that is, homosexual acts, is sinful. Unwilling to bind up heavy burdens men are unable to carry, the Church merely teaches that homosexuals are called to chastity. All men and women are called to live chastely, even in heterosexual marriage, and the single are called to live chastely and celibately, either until heterosexual marriage or for life. That is all.
Turn it down a few notches.
A reader sent me a post from Mark Shea regarding the Dumbledore controversy. Shea’s commenter had the following to write, which had the effect of convicting me in conscience. He wrote:
“This is why I think it’s so important for Christians to have clearly in their minds the distinction between same sex attraction (which are not sinful) and homosexual acts (which are). Otherwise, it’s hard to see how people struggling with homosexual attraction will get any other message than “It’s not what you do, it’s what you are that’s the problem.”
Dumbledore, so far as we can tell, committed no sin in that department. Christians can acknowledge that. They can also point out (as I tried to do yesterday) that his SSA is, from a literary standpoint, the perfect image of the love of the Same that tempted him to Pureblood racism. It is notable that “love”, not sexual attraction, is the term Rowling uses to describe it.
So: can everybody turn it down a few notches? These are not the greatest books of all time. Rowling is neither a true or false prophet. Be aware that persons who are grappling with the Church’s teaching on homosexuality are getting a loud and clear message in the comboxes: It doesn’t matter whether you live chastely or not, if you are SSA then you are irredeemable. I doubt that’s the message anybody intends to send, but it’s being sent (and heard) nonetheless.” - Bleak But True
Yeah, I don’t know why anyone is gay - I don’t live their lives. I apologize if it seems like I was trying to do so. I apologize for not respecting your humanity. Gay people know the teaching of the Church, they don’t need me pounding it home to them, Christ simply asks that I love them as he does, and pray for them.
[Thank you Susan for the Mark Shea link.)
October 25th, 2007 at 11:32 am
My homosexual friends–I love them. They acknowledge they’re gay, and that’s it–they don’t parade it around, try to shove it down everyone’s throats–don’t wear weird clothes–it’s just a fact as if they had been born without a arm or leg–it just is.
We all have our own walk with God, our own struggles.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
“… Unwilling to bind up heavy burdens men are unable to carry, the Church merely teaches that homosexuals are called to chastity. All men and women are called to live chastely, and some are called to live celibately. That is all.” -Terry
Terry, are you saying that the Church teaches that it not a sin for homosexuals to have homosexual sex in a chaste relationship?
“chastity |ˈ ch astətē| noun the state or practice of refraining from extramarital, or esp. from all, sexual intercourse : vows of chastity.”
How does that square w/”The Church simply teaches that to act upon homosexual desire, that is, homosexual acts, are sinful …”? Unless, the key word is “chaste” and therefore, per the definition above, opens the door for ss unions … which the church is oposed … or is it?
I’m confused
October 25th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
“opposed” need to proof read …
October 25th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
Paula - NO - that is not what I am saying!!!- I specifically stated homosexual acts are sinful - which is what the Church teaches. (Can you hear me yelling that?) I agree with what the Church teaches - that homosexual acts are sinful and that same sex marriage is wrong and not permitted. Heterosexual couples are called to chastity, but single people, no matter what their orientation, are called to chastity and celibacy - until they marry a person of the opposite sex. A SS union would not be a chaste relationship. However, people with SSA, who accept the teaching of the Church do live together as friends without any desire to have that recognized as a marriage or ss union. They live faithful, devout Catholic lives.
Yes - I will proof read again.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Terry — please don’t get angery w/me, but I am still confused by this statement … truly, I don’t understand it.
“… Unwilling to bind up heavy burdens men are unable to carry, the Church merely teaches that homosexuals are called to chastity.”
It is the “unwilling to bind up heavy burdens men are unable to carry …”, for homosexuals, some tell us it is not having a sexual relationship which is a heavy burden, unable to carry?
So your recent statement: “but single people, no matter what their orientation, are called to chastity and celibacy - until they marry a person of the opposite sex,” now includes “chastity & celibacy” no matter the “orientation” is what I have come to believe is the Church’s teachings.
Please explain the former statement?
October 25th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
Paula - I’m not at all angry - just being emphatic.
The burden too heavy for homosexuals to carry would be if the Church demanded they change their orientation. Yes, chastity and celibacy seems to be a heavy burden, but this burden is light in comparison to asking people to change what they have experienced all of their lives as being a part of their nature.
As for chastity and celibacy being a heavy burden, millions of heterosexuals have carried it rather well - in our day and throughout the ages. And many homosexuals do as well.
I amended my statement in the post to avoid the confusion you experienced.
Sorry, I should do drafts and then post after editing. Hopefully, this can be my last post on this topic.
AND, I AM NOT ANGRY!!!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
Terry, I think you’ve done a beautiful job elucidating a confusing topic for many. I don’t understand why so many people find this hard to understand … why so many demand SSA persons are “sick” and therefore need to be “cured.” I’m so thankful the Church doesn’t demand I change to heterosexuality. That would be like asking me to grow a 3rd arm. The opposite of homosexuality isn’t heterosexuality. The opposite of homosexuality, IMHO, is holiness.
October 25th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
A very thoughtful and compassionate post.
October 25th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Melody, thank you.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:11 am
This post has inspired me to become more compassionate and pray for my fellow Catholics who are homosexual and are trying to be chaste. I am not gay, but the struggle to deny oneself sexually for a lifetime (and remain a faithful Catholic)must be so difficult.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:52 am
I hope you all take the time to see the documentary now showing at the Landmark Lagoon Theater in Minneapolis.
It is called - “For the Bible Tells Me So” - and it shares the journeys 5 families take when they learn they have a gay child. It is a profound film that looks at the Biblical passages speaking about homosexuality as it weaves together the stories of these 5 families.
Homoexuality is an issue hotly debated in the church. This film brings understanding.
It is showing across the country and will be at the Lagoon through November 2nd.
April 12th, 2008 at 7:09 am
For not being gay, you sure spend a lot of time thinking about and writing how you oppose their involvement in the church.
The funny thing is - gay people are pretty much running the church. Maybe not from the top, but at least here in the US.
I think history will show that the drama is inbred due to the fact that so many priests are gay. Its the fighting within themselves thats causing so much ruckus.