Let your ‘yes’ mean ‘yes’…
And your ‘no’ mean ‘no’… - James 5
Today’s first reading at Mass reminded me of the Lord’s words from the Sermon on the Mount, “Say ‘Yes’ when you mean ‘Yes’ and ‘No’ when you mean ‘No.’ Anything beyond that is from the evil one.” [Matt. 5:37]
Certainly these passages must give anyone pause when one considers the ongoing debate about admitting homosexuals to Holy Orders. The Vatican just reiterated, indeed clarified Church policy regarding this issue. All I can say is there must be a lot of homosexuals in the clergy and the episcopate to cause such an uproar over what the pronouncement means.
The Cardinal.
In fact Cardinal Rosales of Manila more or less contradicted the Vatican’s prohibition shortly after it was made public:
Cardinal Gaudencio Rosales of Manila told reporters that homosexuals who do not “act out” can be good priests. His statement came immediately after the release of a letter in which Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (bio - news), the Vatican Secretary of State, confirmed that a Church policy barring homosexuals from priestly training applies to all the world’s seminaries.
Speaking on Radio Veritas in the Philippines, Cardinal Rosales said that the Vatican did not intend to ban chaste homosexuals from the seminaries. “A homosexual inclination is not bad but acting it out is an entirely different matter, and that is what is written in the sacred scriptures,” he said. - CWN
So what does the Vatican really say?
“The Vatican policy on the question, explained in an Instruction that was released by the Congregation for Catholic Education in 2005, stipulates that a homosexual identity interferes with a man’s ability to achieve what the document termed “affective maturity and spiritual paternity,” even if the individual refrains from homosexual acts. The Instruction says that anyone who identifies himself as homosexual– whether or not he is sexually active– is not an appropriate candidate for priestly ministry.”- CWN
It was meant for other people.
I’ve known a fair share of gay priests - how do I know, because they identify as such. I don’t care if a person identifies as SSA, (same-sex-attracted), gay, queer, homosexual, homosexually attracted, what have you. If a man identifies himself in this way, there is obviously something “deep-seated” going on. But many do not believe the rules apply to themselves, or they may feel they are simply meant to placate the faithful. (Dymphna has a short post on how confusing this issue can become - it is related to the story of a Texas bishop’s assignment of a gay priest and that priest’s subsequent resignation.)
WDTPRS? (What do the priests really say?)
Not every “SSA” priest admits his orientation outright, although there are other signs and signals to let another person know, if he wants him to know. For those willing to discuss the issue, many say they have made peace with their orientation and have accepted it as a gift from God. They claim to have arrived at a place in life wherein they can be faithful to their vocation, observing chaste celibacy. So that is good, right? Pretty much - if he kept himself pure…
Because…
For all of the challenges anyone faces when embracing a life of chastity - I think it is much easier for a gay priest to fall prey to temptation and satisfy the urges of nature, mainly because gay sex is easily had for the taking. Just ask any married man, or gay man in a relationship, or one who just happens to like cruising and public sex. (It isn’t always about self-hate when guys do this stuff. When straight men go to a brothel or massage parlor is it because they hate their sexuality or something inside themselves, or do they just want a quickie, or happen to like dirty sex?)
Then…
There is that “favored person status“, the “club” atmosphere. All men hang out with the guys they like and share similar interests with. Gay men hang out with gay people - and if they are hanging out with straight people, very often these people tend to be “gay” by association. (J. McNeil, The Church and the Homosexual, 1976) They’re pretty much open to the artistic, more spiritual and intellectual sensitivity of the SSA priest. In addition, SSA priests know and cultivate friendships with like-minded priests. When they become bishops, maybe even cardinals, they continue to cultivate and maintain these friendships and contacts. The “old boys” - “old girls” club thing.
Cover ups.
The SSA priest understands the lonely isolation of gay men, the slips and falls, and frequent addictive behaviors they can become entangled in. Therefore they more easily excuse and even cover up their brother priest’s sin - sometimes assuring him that there was no sin. It can be like “protective services” for errant priests. You don’t have to agree with me on this, but you can believe me when I tell you I know what I’m talking about.
Circumventing the rules.
To me, it is a strange obedience when a priest or religious studies and disects a rule to discover all of its loopholes in order to legitimize one’s behaviour. A priest once explained the loopholes of the Vatican ruling to me in this way:
I have had long discussions with folks in Rome on the three criteria published in the Instruction. They were very carefully worded so as to respect the infinite variety of souls and of Our Lord’s work in them. They were not intended to close the door absolutely. They are principles; their application is entrusted to those who have the grace of state to do so.
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The three criteria:
- those who practise homosexuality,
- present deep-seated homosexual tendencies
- or support the so-called “gay culture.”
Numbers 1 and 3 are self-explanatory. Number 2 is more complex. The deep-seated tendency is generally manifested in the individual for whom the SSA is very core of his identity. All of his choices and all of his self-expression proceeds from what he perceives as being (ontologically) constitutional of who he is as a person. Homosexuality as a state of being is a relatively new concept. The traditional moral theology looks at one’s choices and behaviour: a question, not of being, but of doing, or saying, or acting out, or otherwise expressing what is an intrinsically disordered inclination. - Letter
Obedient dissent?
Okay, perhaps SSA vocations can be reviewed on a case by case basis, thereby permitting a man with previous homosexual inclination to be ordained - that is a big risk to take though. How can it be determined the man has resolved the issues of sexuality and the underlying psychological issues that affected the inclination in the first place? What about a relapse? It would definitely have to be an exception to obtain a dispensation to admit a “former homosexual” to a seminary or to ordination, and not the “rule” - as it seems to have been in the not too distant past. That this is an issue for gay men already ordained suggests to me their personal issues have not at all been successfully resolved.
Or, Creative Fidelity?
Diogenes has an interesting post on this same subject, he writes:
It’s no secret that the old line religious orders are the most fervid dissenters from the ban on homosexuals, and their superiors comprise a kind of Shadow Cabinet within the Church: hostile to the policy of the Holy See but outwardly deferential to its authority — and, most importantly, incubating in their ranks a parallel government and parallel apparat through which the “alternative” policies are discreetly advanced. The Shadow Cabinet’s own term for this genial subversion is Creative Fidelity, and any housewife whose husband protests he was “creatively faithful” to her during his Las Vegas business jaunt will be able to gauge the degree to which the Pope is reassured by the euphemism. - Ad dubiam.
Yeah, so I don’t think that ”smoke of Satan” thing Pope Paul VI referred to was just about liturgical abuse either.
Links:
David at Cosmos, Liturgy, Sex has a couple of presentations which deal with these issues on a more anthropological, theological level, and are easier to understand.
- Deception , Dysfunctionalism , Opinion , Queer , Vocations
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Why would God call a gay man to the priesthood, and then support the Church in telling him “no?”
Doesn’t add up. Sorry.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Your point is well taken, Terry.
Do the rules prevent anyone who is gay from ordination even if they seem mature enough for the job, and faithful to his vocation? I was told once by a very conservative Dominican priest that the answer to that question was no.
I think if a man feels a vocation to the priesthood and is willing to be faithful to his celibatic vows and adhere to the tenets of our faith, then his sexual orientation should be inconsequential. I’m a little leery of finding someone guilty of something based on the propensity or likelihood of that individual committing a specific sin. In this particular case, that would translate to eliminating someone from ordination based on the likelihood of that person violating his vows before he’s even gotten a chance to do anything.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:38 pm
“Do the rules prevent anyone who is gay from ordination even if they seem mature enough for the job, and faithful to his vocation?”
Great question Tom - but I’m not qualified to answer that. As Diogenes points out, the religious orders, mendicants and monastic, seem to be much freer with their interpretations of such regulations.
“I think if a man feels a vocation to the priesthood and is willing to be faithful to his celibate vows and adhere to the tenets of our faith, then his sexual orientation should be inconsequential.”
That would seem to be the case if homosexuality was “normal” sexual orientation. Unfortunately, it is considered a disorder, albeit not sinful unless acted upon.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Thank you, Terry.
I think that there is a concern on behalf of the Church that the priesthood might become synonymous with homosexuality. I can understand their attempts to fight that stigma. My thinking is that somewhere on this earth there must be a Catholic(s) who might be gay in orientation, but who faithfully adheres to Church teachings and is simultaneously called to the ministry.
Again, thank you for your response.
May 24th, 2008 at 5:56 am
You’ve written here one of the most eloquent and intelligent essays on the subject, Terry. Bravo!
May 24th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Tom - I think you are correct.
Georgette - thanks, you may be the only one who thinks that.
May 24th, 2008 at 8:46 am
From a strictly practical standpoint, I understand why these things are being tightened up. Something like 80% of the sexual abuse cases have involved same sex incidents. Not to take action would be criminally irresponsible, not to mention stupid. However, a blanket, black-and-white exclusion of all men with any degree of same sex attraction may be unjust, and may be impossible. Attachment to sin would seem to be the “disorder” we would wish to eliminate. As Tom points out, chastity is chastity, regardless of one’s orientation.
Unfortunately, in our diocese we recently have had 2 instances of parish priests embezzling large sums of money. Are we going to try to screen out all men with “klepto” tendencies from admission to Holy Orders? Or do we need to pay a lot more attention to things like integrity and strength of character? Scandals of any sort have involved people doing things that were wrong, that they knew were wrong.
May 24th, 2008 at 8:55 am
As usual Melody, very good points - thanks.
All men and women are tempted to various sins - but they usually do not indentify themselves by their sin or temptations.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Well, Terry, I can say this, but it’s only because I’ve recently embraced my heretic status: the Church has a lot of catching up to do. Looking back, I don’t think it was in El Grande Design for the Church to ponitificate (Ha!) on scientific matters.
Case in point: “The Earth absolutely does NOT rotate around the son, Sir!”
Let’s just hope it doesn’t take 500 years for this theological/scientific puttering to be rescinded!
May 24th, 2008 at 9:36 am
***That should have been “sun,” of course.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Terry, I agree that if they self-identify as “gay” (as opposed to recognizing some degree of SSA that they have never acted on), that’s a red flag.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:42 am
What does the Social Security Administration have to do with this ?
As far as abuse is concerned, I don’t think it’s much of a problem with today’s gay priests. The stigma attached to homosexuality in the past, in society and especially in Catholicism, left these men frequently twisted and emotionally immature. Given the big taboo, they never came to terms with their sexuality on an adult level, thus relating to minors. Repressing something will always come back with a vengeance. Today’s gay priests, if they fail to keep their vow of celibacy, are far more likely to engage with adult men, much like straight priests are far more likely to engage with adult women. An exception could be ultra-conservative younger priests. Personal culpability notwithstanding, I think the ‘one-sided’ Catholic abuse crimes were very much home-made.
In society overall, abuse isn’t lop-sided like that.
Anyway, as is well-known by now, I don’t regard gay people as ’suffering’ from something. It’s not like a gay man can take a pill and all of a sudden be enamored with boobs.
The more accepting society becomes, the less twisted behavior will be seen. Obviously, if you tell people that they’re sick, perverted - and they buy into it - they’ll end up like the many Evangelical pastors or Republican senator and go tap-tapping in restrooms.
There’s no need to be secretive if there’s nothing to be ashamed of. In society overall, there is vast acceptance by now, with some resistance by older people and conservative religious people. In the decade + I’ve been in the USA, things have fundamentally changed.
Now if only the International Ga y Lisp (TM) that some gay men feature could go away
(That’s another funny thing - uninformed people tend to think all gay men are effeminate, simply because those are the ones who stick out).
May 27th, 2008 at 8:17 am
The part that seems often overlooked is that a man who is attracted to men and/or self identifies as “gay” suffers from a serious disorder. Humans are created men and women - to be carnally attracted to your same sex is seriously abnormal. Whether a man is celibate is somewhat irrelevant - its the disorder that disqualifies one from the priesthood. Being gay is an impediment, just as being bi-polar, schitzophrenic, sacramentally married, being female, etc - these are all impediments which should exclude one from holy orders.